ibn Taymiyya’s Straying From the Way of the Atharis

Al Imam Ibnul Wazeer (D. 840AH) mentioned on pg. 331 of the 3rd volume of his book ‘Awaasim minal Qawaasim:

ومذهب الإمام أحمد وأمثاله من أئمة الحديث وهم طائفتان:

الطائفة الأولى: أهل الحديث والأثر وأتباع السنن والسلف الذين ينهون عن الخوض في علم الكلام

ثم قال…

الطائفة الثانية أهل النظر في علم الكلام والمنطق والمعقولات وهم فرقتان:

أحدهما: الأشعرية

والفرقة الثانية من المتكلمين منهم: الأثرية كابن تيمية وأصحابه فهؤلاء من أهل الحديث لا يخالفونهم إلا في استحسان الخوض في الكلام, وفي التجاسر على بعض العبارات, وفيما تفرد به من الخوض في الدقائق الخفيات والمحدثون ينكرون ذلك عليهم لأنه ربما أدى ذلك إلى بدعة أو قدح في الدين. أهـــ

“And the madhhab of Al Imam Ahmad and others like him from the the Imams of Hadeeth, and they are two groups:

The first group is: Ahlul Hadeeth wal Athar and the followers of the Prophetic traditions and the Salaf, who forbid theological discussion (‘Ilmul Kalaam).”

Later, after discussing them in detail in several pages, Ibnul Wazeer said:

“The second group is: The people of research in Theology (‘Ilmul Kalaam), Logic, and intellectual sciences. And they subdivide into two groups:

The first group is the Ash’aris.

The second group of theologians include the Athariyyah like Ibn Taymiyyah and his companions. For they are from Ahlul Hadeeth. They do not differ with them except about the permissibility of indulging in theology, and in boldly making certain statements, and in the discussion of intricate complex issues that he (Ibn Taymiyyah) went alone with. The scholars of Hadeeth disapproved of them doing so because it could possibly lead to innovation or a violation of the Deen.”

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117

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ibn Rajab al-Hanbali – ‘The ‘Ulama, Fuqaha, Muhaddithin, and Salihin Disliked that he Go on his Own with Some of His (ibn taymiyya’s) Unique Rulings’

Ibn Rajab Al Hanbali (D. 795AH), the student of Ibn Taymiyyah’s student Ibn Qayyim Al Jawziyyah, acknowledges that Ibn Taymiyyah had unique rulings when he said in his update of Al Qaadi Abu Ya’la’s son’s book on biographies of the Hanbalis called Dhaylu Tabaqaatil Hanaabilah vol. 4 pg. 505 (507 on the PDF reader)

http://www.kabah.info/uploaders/Zayletabkat04.rar

ولكن كان هو وجماعة من خواص أصحابه ربما أنكروا من الشيخ كلامه في بعض الأئمة الأكابر الأعيان، أو في أهل التخلي والانقطاع ونحو ذلك.
وكان الشيخ رحمه اللّه لا يقصد بذلك إلا الخير، والانتصار للحق إن شاء الله تعالى.
وطوائف من أئمة أهل الحديث وحفاظهم وفقهائهم: كانوا يحبون الشيخ ويعظمونه، ولم يكونوا يحبون له التوغل مع أهل الكلام ولا الفلاسفة، كما هو طريق أئمة أهل الحديث المتقدمين، كالشافعي وأحمد وإسحاق وأبي عبيد ونحوهم، وكذلك كثير هن العلماء من الفقهاء والمحدثين والصالحين كرهوا له التفرد ببعض شذوذ المسائل التي أنكرها السلف على من شذ بها، حتى إن بعض قضاة العدل من أصحابنا منعه من الإفتاء ببعض ذلك. أهـــ

“However he (‘Imaad Ad Deen Al Waasiti) and a group of Ibn Taymiyyah’s closest companions disapproved of the Shaikh’s statements about some of the eminent and high-standing Imams, or the likes of those people who would disconnect themselves from the world to be alone with their Lord (the Sufis). And the Shaikh may Allah have mercy on him did not intend anything by that but good, and defense of the truth Inshaa Allahu ta’aala. And various circles of the people of Hadeeth; including Imams, Huffaadh (memorizers of more than 100,000 hadeeths) and Fuqahaa (Jurists) used to love the Shaikh (i.e. Ibn Taymiyyah) and hold him in high regard. But they did not like for him to go into in-depth issues with the theologians and philosophers – as was the methodology of the Imams of Ahlul Hadeeth like Ash Shaafi’ee, Ahmad, Ishaaq, Abu ‘Ubaid and others like them. Additionally, many ‘Ulamaa, Fuqahaa, Muhadditheen, and Saaliheen (Righteous people) disliked that he go on his own with some of his unique rulings that the Salaf disapproved of whoever went alone with. Until one of the just judges from our colleages prevented him from making those fatawas.”

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117

ibn Taymiyya’s Unique Fatwas

Imam al-Dhahabi (D. 748AH) said on page 327 and 328 of his book Dhailu Tareekhil Islam:

http://www.archive.org/download/alhelawy06/tiz53.pdf

وإن أنت عذرت كبار الائمة فى معضلاتهم ولم تعذر ابن تيمية فى مفرداته فقد أقررت على نفسك بالهوى و عدم الانصاف. أهـــ

“If you were to excuse the eminent Scholars for their problematic verdicts yet not excuse Ibn Taymiyyah for his unique fatawas, you would be acknowledging that you yourself have leanings and unfairness.”

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117

Imam al-Dhahabi – ‘He (ibn Taymiyya) has Strange (Rulings on) Issues’

Imam al-Dhahabi (D. 748AH) said in Dhuyool Al ‘Ibar fee Khabari man Ghabar, page 84:

http://s203841464.onlinehome.us/waqfeya/books/10/0923/0923_4.rar

وله مسائل غريبة نيل من عرضه لأجلها

“And he has strange (rulings on) issues, due to which his repute was under fire”

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117

Imam al-Dhahabi – ‘He (ibn Taymiyya) Went Alone on Issues’

Imam al-Dhahabi (D. 748AH) said in Al Mu’jam Al Mukhtass bil Muhadditheen, on page 25 (pg 45 in the PDF reader), bio #22:

http://www.archive.org/download/waq1281/1281.pdf

وانفرد بمسائل فنيل من عرضه لأجلها, وهو بشر له ذنوب وخطأ ومع هذا فوالله ما مقلت عينِي مثله ولا رأى هو مثله نفسه. أهــ

And he went alone on issues that, because of them his repute was under fire. And he is a man. He has sins and mistakes. Yet despite this, by Allah, my eyes have never seen the likes of him, nor has he seen the likes of himself.”

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117

Imam al-Dhahabi – ‘He (ibn Taymiyya) Went Alone to Make Unique Fatwas’

In his book, Tadhkiratul Huffaadh pg 1497, Al Imam Adh Dhahabi (D. 748AH) mentions about his teacher Ibn Taymiyyah:

http://www.archive.org/download/waq1331/1331.pdf

وقد انفرد بفتاوى نيل من عرضه لأجلها وهي مغمورة في بحر علمه, فالله تعالى يسامحه ويرضى عنه فما رأيت مثله. وكل واحد من الأمة فيؤخذ من قوله ويترك فكان ماذا؟ أهـــ

And he went alone to make unique fatawas, due to which his repute came under fire. Yet they are submerged in the ocean of his knowledge. So may Allah forgive him and be pleased with him, for I have never seen anyone like him. And since the case with everyone in the Muslim Ummah is that some of their statements may be accepted and others may be rejected, what is the problem?”

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117

ibn Taymiyya’s Unprecedented Statements

In a biography, Imam Adh Dhahabi (D. 748AH) said about his teacher Ibn Taymiyyah:

ولقد نصر السنة المحضة، والطريقة السلفية، واحتج لها ببراهين ومقدمات، وأمور لم يسبق إليها، وأطلق عبارات أحجم عنها الأولون والآخرون وهابوا، وجسر هو عليها، حتى قام عليه خلق من علماء مصر والشام قياماً لا مزيد عليه. أهـــ

“And he supported the pure Sunnah, and the Salafi methodology. And he argued using proofs, premises and matters that he was not preceded to. And he made statements that the earlier and later people refrained from saying and were afraid to utter. Yet he boldly said those things, until a huge group of Scholars from Egypt and Syria confronted him most sternly.”

See pg. 243:

http://www.archive.org/download/waq62205/62205.pdf

Courtesy of Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:

http://forum.aslein.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117