From Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani:
In blatant opposition of Quran, Sunnah and Ijmaa’, Ibn Taymiyyah said in his book:
ﺍﻟﺮﺩ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻣﻦ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺑﻔﻨﺎء ﺍﻟﺠﻨﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﻨﺎﺭ
“Ar Raddu ‘ala man qaala bi fanaa’il Jannati wan Naar” (The Refutation of the one who affirms the end of both Heaven and Hell)
Ibn Taymiyyah said:
ﻓﻴﻪ ﻣﻦ ﻣﻨﺎﻗﻀﺔ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻤﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺮﺣﻤﺔ ﻣﺎ ﻻ ﻳﻈﻬﺮ ﻓﻲ ﻏﻴﺮﻩ ﺃﻫـــ ﻭﺃﻣﺎ ﺧﻠﻖ ﻧﻔﻮﺱﺗﻌﻤﻞ ﺍﻟﺸﺮ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺪﻧﻴﺎ ﻭﻓﻲ ﺍﻵﺧﺮﺓ ﻻ ﺗﻜﻮﻥ ﺇﻻﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﺬﺍﺏ، ﻓﻬﺬﺍ ﺗﻨﺎﻗﺾ ﻳﻈﻬﺮ
“But the creation of souls that commit evil in the dunya, then will only be in torment in the Hereafter IS A CONTRADICTION. The contradiction of Divine Wisdom and Mercy is more apparent in this issue than anything else.”
In the same book, he said:
ﻟﻴﺲ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ ﻛﺘﺎﺏ، ﻭﻻ ﺳﻨﺔ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻗﻮﺍﻝ ﺍﻟﺼﺤﺎﺑﺔ -. ﺃﻫــــ ﻭﺣﻴﻨﺌﺬ ﻓﻴﺤﺘﺞ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻓﻨﺎﺋﻬﺎ ﺑﺎﻟﻜﺘﺎﺏ ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ، ﻭﺃﻗﻮﺍﻝ ﺍﻟﺼﺤﺎﺑﺔ – ﻣﻊ ﺃﻥ ﺍﻟﻘﺎﺋﻠﻴﻦﺑﺒﻘﺎﺋﻬﺎ
“In which case, the argument for the ending of Hellfire is supported by the Quran, the Sunnah, and the statements of the Sahabah; while the affirmers of its eternality have with them no Quran, no Sunnah, and no statements of the Sahabah.”
Please NOTICE how he not only blatantly outright contradicts the Quran, Sunnah and Ijmaa’ on an issue that is ma’loom minad Deeni bid Daroorah (known from the Deen by necessity – i.e. known by every Muslim scholar or layman), he also claims (as usual for all his innovations) that the Quran, the Sunnah, and the statements of the Sahabah AGREE with him, and DISAGREE with the Hellfire existing forever. smh. ARE YOU SERIOUS?? REALLY??
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Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani comments further:
This is the famous Ibn Taymiyyah. He was famous because he was a scholar, fearless, outspoken, wrote a lot of books and even made jihad. HOWEVER, he said a lot of things against Allah, his Rasool SallAllahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, his blessed family, Sahabah, and the scholars of earlier and later times that caused him to be incarcerated repeatedly until he finally died in prison.
Allah will judge him like He will judge us all. But Ibn Taymiyyah has outlived his lifespan through his literature that still contain a lot of his incorrect beliefs (like the one above), and through certain individuals who call themselves “Salafis” that all too often only learn his interpretation of the Deen and try to impose it on the rest of the Ummah as being the correct understanding that the Righteous Predecessors of the Muslims had. That is why I criticise him the way I do. To raise awareness.
At the end of the day, I do not curse him like some do, and I don’t say “may Allah have mercy on him” like many others do. I simply show people the other face of Ibn Taymiyyah so they won’t believe the hype about him being “Shaykhul Islam”.
Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani continues:
Laymen, as well as scholars, already believe Heaven and Hell are forever. He derived his understanding about there being a difference by
1. Following his intellect, which he constantly accuses the Sunni theologians for relying on instead of the texts.
2. Following the methodology of bypassing the clear-cut (muhkamaat) and relying on the ambiguous (mutashaabihaat). This is the methodology Allah warned us is the way of people who have deviation and perversion in their hearts in the beginning verses of Surah Ali ‘Imraan.
The verses he refers to mention that the people will stay in Hell for as long as the Heavens and Earth remain, except as your Lord wills.
“As long as the Heaven and Earth remain” – is a figure of speech that the Arabs use to mean forever.
The scholars of tafseer disagree about the exception mentioned in the ayat:
“Except as your Lord wills”
Al Imam Ibnul Jawzi Al Hanbali (D. 597AH) RahimahUllah mentioned seven meanings for it in his tafseer of the Quran:
1. The exception is in the right of the monotheists that will exit Hell by the intercession. – Ibn Abbas, Ad Dahhaak
2. It is an exception that Allah will not do. – Ibn Abbaas, Az Zajjaaj
3. They will abide in Hell forever, but Allah will order the Hellfire to consume them until they perish, then He will recreate them. So the exception is mentioned in reference to that state. – Ibn Mas’ud
4. That “except – illaa” here means “besides – siwaa”. Like if you say in Arabic, “If we had someone with us except Zaid” meaning besides Zaid. So the meaning would be “they will dwell in it as long as the Heavens and Earth remain except the eternity and additional time your Lord wills them to stay.” This is the opinion of (the Arabic linguist and explainer of the Quran) Al Farraa. Ibn Qutaibah said, “An example of it in common speech is like saying “I will let you stay in this house for a year except as you will” – meaning except as you will for me to let you stay longer.”
5. When they are resurrected and gathered together, they will be in the conditions of the Day of Resurrection. So the exception applies to the period of time they stand for judgment and reckoning (before entering Hell). – Az Zajjaaj
6. The exception applies to their wailing and crying (mentioned in the ayat before it), except what your Lord wills of other types of torment that has not been mentioned. – Az Zajjaaj
7. That “except – illaa” here means “just as – kamaa” (just as your lord wills). – Ath Tha’labi
End quote from Ibnul Jawzi.
Number six stood out to me because I remember reading a hadeeth that mentioned that after eons of them crying out to Allah to make them not exist, Allah will say to them the verse of the Quran “ikhsa’oo feehaa wa la tukallimoon! Be cursed therein and do not address me” then He will seal their mouths and noses so their breath will not exit but only go back and forth between their chests and heads. That could be the other torment that was not mentioned. The verses would then mean that they will scream and wail in Hell forever except the rest of eternity in which Allah wills for them to suffocate, unable to scream again. MAY ALLAH SAVE US!!
Notice that Ibnul Jawzi did not even mention the possibility of the Hellfire ending in all the quotes he brought. But some scholars did mention some weak narrations attributed to some of the Sahabah that mention the doors of Hellfire swinging and there not being anyone inside, like Al Imam At Tabari in his tafseer. But even those scholars, at the end of the research affirmed that Hellfire would not end, and if those narrations applied to anyone, it would be the believers.
In conclusion, Shaykh Abdur Rahman Sondalaani mentions:
But please note that there are also some places in his books where he mentions that Hellfire will NOT end. A Salafi may try to defend him by mentioning that. But at best, his statements are contradictory on a clear cut issue where that is not allowed. No where did he explicitly say that he was of one opinion and changed his mind for us to know what his final position was. So we are left with his contradictory statements in his book “Fanaa Al Jannah wan Naar” and the statements of his top student Ibnul Qayyim in “Haadil Arwaah” and “Shifaa’ul ‘Aleel” and what their contemporaries have affirmed about them on this issue.